Make Men, Do Not Kill Them Nataraja Dasa

We say – western ideals. But they are not western ideals. Not so far away – just a hundred years ago – everyone in west followed simple rules of family life. These are western ideals from time immemorial (not only Christian): – Husband serves God, wife serves husband, children serves parents and follow in their footsteps.

Not what we call now “western ideals” – equality, rights, bla bla bla – that’s the concoction of sick people – humanity haters communist/socialist/nationalist/liberasts and atheists – who wanted to create NEW HUMAN and NEW WORLD (by the help of new ideologies and respective consequences – continuous world wars, ethnic and class cleanings, artificial migration and famines and revolutions).

ISKCON as all other organized religions are on the LINE now. Only chaste woman can train other woman to be chaste. And that’s not question of one lecture or recourse. In family it is naturally – grandmother, mother, older sisters, own service to the husband, own children – acara and pracara. read more

Live According to Varnasrama Nataraja Dasa

Brahmana is a highest in varnasrama not because he may be born in a brahmana family, but because:

vaiśeṣyāt prakṛtiśraiṣṭhyānniyamasya ca dhāraṇāt |
saṃskārasya viśeṣācca varṇānāṃ brāhmaṇaḥ prabhuḥ || Manu samhita 10.3 ||
The Brāhmaṇa is the lord of the varnas, on account of his distinctive qualities, of the superiority of his origin, of his observance of restrictive rules, of the peculiar character of his sanctification.

1. Distinctive qualities – Vaiśeṣyāt’.—‘Through pre-eminence,—of qualities
2. Origin – of the superiority of his origin,’—the Brāhmaṇa having sprung from the highest part of Prajāpati’s body. ‘Origin’ means source.
3. Observances of restrictive rules – Niyamasya dhāraṇāt
4. The peculiarity of his sanctification;’—this refers to the observances of the Accomplished Student. (Guru can be someone who by himself is a foremost disciple). read more

To be Situated in Varnasrama Nataraja Dasa

Astrology decides (shows) what your body is meant for. It’s a duty of parents to rise and educate child in this direction. Towards ideal and predestined natural qualities. In a case of daughter – that’s easier – stri dharma do not depend on varna dharma, it’s separate. Varna of daughter is important only when you choose future husband.

So – varna is in the field of problematics of rising and education of sons.
In my case of my sons – astrologically, I have 2 ksatriyas, vaisya and brahmana. We all together study these topics and we clearly see how it’s practically shows up, these differences.

Then there is case of emergency. Yes – I consider myself ksatriya as it is shown by my stars – because whatever I do, I do as a fight. I even make my work, sometimes shudras work (case of emergency* for to fulfill asrama duty) as a fight. Therefore I was forced to open my own company, because I am very bad employee. It’s very hard to “exploit” me, lot of problems for employers.
But when I am for my own – then this fight can go on. read more

First Step Nataraja Dasa

tatas te niryayur gopāḥ svaṁ svam ādāya go-dhanam
śakaṭoḍhopakaraṇaṁ strī-bāla-sthavirāḥ śanaiḥ

“After collecting their respective cows and loading their paraphernalia into their wagons, the cowherd men went out. The women, children and elderly persons gradually followed them.”
SB 10.25.27

When I was little kid – almost every babushka on a country side did have her own respective cow. Just some 30-40 years ago.
But now?

In our movement we try to speak about cow protection – how to revive it. But in this beautiful verse there is a simple formula of cow protection.
I know personally many men who not only would want to have cows, but who have had or still have them. But they are mostly lone men. read more

Where is the Difficulty? Nataraja Dasa

About practice

Some may say, that:

“It is difficult to apply the laws of Manu in today’s world since the conditions that exist now are very different from those when they were formally codified.”

But it’s not really true – even if some laws we may not be able to apply, due to current law system – still there are plenty of principal laws, which we can definitely apply. In Bhagavad Gita is said, that better to imperfectly do what is your duty than perfectly what is not. The same is said in Manu Samhita itself – even if you are imperfect and conditions imperfect, better is to do what is your dharma and duties. read more

Talking Down Varnasrama – 2

While Anuttama Prabhu directly shows his aversion to varnasrama, Nityananda Prabhu, North American GBC and Dallas Temple President, is more nuanced in his approach. While he acknowledges that at some unspecified time in the future, intelligent devotees will introduce varnasrama, he makes a case to keep the status quo. He has a chart which he uses in leadership seminars for non-devotees, showing nine levels of people in general, and he classifies them into three groups. The first group from levels one to four fall under Sense objects, senses, mind and intelligence. The second group is the fifth level, consciousness. The third group are from levels six to nine, Soul, Brahman, Supersoul and Supreme Absolute Truth. He uses this chart to state his case. Key quotes by Nityananda Das, “as he said it,” are found at the end of this article.

He sort of speaks in circles, repeats without getting to a direct point about where devotees stand on this chart. But his idea is that the materialists are from levels one to four and upwards from that are devotees. His vision is to bring the consciousness of the materialists to the mode of goodness using modern techniques such as his leadership seminars to non-devotees.

I disagree with his view that because we engage in ninth level or transcendental activities, we are on the ninth level and transcendental, and therefore we do not need those traditional trappings such as that which would be found in varnasrama. So he pushes devotees right up there, not considering that most of us are still struggling with the senses and trying to control the mind. read more

Talking “Down” Varnasrama

During the 2014 North American GBC meetings, Anuttama Das and Nityananda Das shared a platform in a presentation; their topic was Varnasrama. http://www.dandavats.com/?p=12906#more-12906  They talked “down” varnasrama. Key quotes by Anuttama Das, current chair of the GBC, as he said it, are found at the end of this article.

If a politician talks down the currency or economy of his country, even in a positive way, his career is practically finished. There will be no end of criticism and pressure for him to resign.

Varnasrama is like our currency. It is our true economy in all respects – true wealth as in the land and all that which goes with it, to always be in the association of devotees, and most of all, steady spiritual advancement is guaranteed. read more

Rethinking Varnasrama

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Rethinking Varṇāśrama

How changing our current thinking on the utility of varṇāśrama-dharma can reconnect it with ISKCON’s overall preaching mission and solve some of ISKCON’s most troubling social problems.

by Krishna-kirti das, 9/30/2013 read more

How can we explain the need of Varanasrama dharma organization in human society?

Manidhara Prabhu

The need is self-evident, unfortunately not to many. Either in name of imaginary transcendental progress or in name of mayavada based declaration of oneness and “unity”, the conditioned soul likes not to look into the mirror and agree on ones acquired conditioning. And so we run into the risk to become grhasta-sannyasis and sannyasi-grhastas, homely brahmacaries of ugra-tapas grhastas, ending in entirely disturbed situations, causing pain to so many other living entities.

Even most intimate associates of the Lord place themselves while performing their lilas into exemplary varna and dharma designated positions in order to teach the conditioned souls how to live a disciplined life while aiming towards the satisfaction of the Supreme Lord. And whenever, like at the beginning of Bhagava-gita, a devotee THINKS to serve in a self-designated position, the Lord rectifies him instantly.

As He declares a faulty but honest servant to be superior to a self-designated hypocrite, a devote naturally strives for a position where he doesn’t disturb His master by illusory concepts about himself and his bodily destined situation. read more

Mayapur – The Land – The Vision – 1969 to 1977 part 2

Value of the Land

Land in the dham should not be measured in terms of mundane monetary value. It is much more valuable than that. It is actually considered to be chintamani. Yet we are sometimes scolded that the land in Mayapur has so much monetary value that we cannot afford the luxury of creating simple housing, or dedicating some land to demonstrate simple living. This contention is not born out by Srila Prabhupada’s teaching however. When it comes to principles, he saw things from a completely different perspective.

In a BTG issue from 1952 Srila Prabhupada describes the birth right of each individual: read more