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. . . .While I was still in Israel- late 80s/early 90s, I began reading, and relishing, Conversations
with Srila Prabhupada, starting with Volume One. Into the 90s, as I get to Volume Thirtysix,
I read the conversations from November 1977. My straightforward impressions from
that reading were, and continue to be, after reading your Deception, that Srila Prabhupada
was clearly concerned that he was being given poison with homicidal intent, and those, or at
least several of those, who were with him at the time, knew for certain that Srila Prabhupada
was concerned, (transcendentally) distressed, that he was being given poision with
murderous intent.

. . . . As far as the contention that Srila Prabhupada and those around him were only speaking and
concerned about the sometimes toxic effects of some medicines, that stance, for me, doesn’t
at all hold up. I say that because in that same conversation they are speaking about a case of
poisoning by murder, and previously they were speaking about a case of murder by poison of
an acarya in a Sankaracarya math (Page 359- Tamal Krsna Goswami- “Jayapataka Maharaja
was telling that one acarya, Sankaracarya, of the Sankaracarya line…he was poisoned to
So, Srila Prabhupada was expressing and concerned about being given poison with murderous
intent, and those around him were clear about that. That is clear to me from reading Conversations
with Srila Prabhupada, and from hearing audio recordings from Srila Prabhupada’s
conversations from that time period. To me, the interpretations you give in your
book, to a significant extent, sound and seem quite twisted, strained. So, I guess we get to
agree to disagree on what Srila Prabhupada was communicating.

. . . . . In regards to whispers- it seems to me that there are several audio and audio-forensic professionals
who assert that, in the background of conversations with Srila Prabhupada during
November, 1977, there are whispers that include the word “poison”, including the statement
“The poison is going down”. In your Deception you endeavour to attack their competence
and motivations. These professionals include, for example, Tom Owen, Helen McCaffrey,
Jack Mitchell and James Reames.

. . . . Tom Owen, from Owl Investigations, writes, regarding the whispers in the background of
conversations with Srila Prabhupada in November 1977, “The word poison is clearly audible…..
There is conversation about poison and the use of it. In my opinion there is certainly a
basis for further investigation….A forensic toxicologist and homicide investigator should be
consulted…Based on my training and experience, the word poison is clearly audible and intelligible
in several instances.”

. . . . .Similarly you attempt to discredit, with regards to credentials, competency and motivation,
Jack Mitchell, Helen McCaffrey, and others. I understand that some may place heavy weight
on your attempts at discrediting them. My view, based on carefully studying the relevant
materials and documentation, is that McCaffrey and Mitchell are respected professionals,
who gave sincere effort, and concluded that people in the background are whispering and
using the word “poison” in their whispers, while Srila Prabhupada is lying there. Yes, I understand,
as you describe on page 143 of your book, that Dr. Helen McCaffrey’s specialty is
hearing disabilities, and not forensics. That for me doesn’t erase credibility in regards to her
efforts and findings, which do confirm the findings of others, who are audio-forensic specialists.

. . . . And, similarly with Dr. Robert Morris, and his cadmium findings in Srila Prabhupada’s hair.

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