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Indian man: [break] …is there are social act which this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement has taken?
Prabhupāda: What is the best social activity? Our is the best…
Indian man: Serving the poor and the natives…
Prabhupāda: Everyone is poor. Who is rich? First of all find out. Who is rich?
Indian man: Rich in the sense, luxurious living…
Prabhupāda: He is not living very luxuriously, that he has no disease, he does not become old. Does not become?
Indian man: No.
Prabhupāda: Then? Then where is richness?
Indian man: Somebody questioned me yesterday.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man: “There are so many things. Doing any social activities?”
Prabhupāda: These things are being done by so many other people, and we are doing something which is ultimate. The hospital gives some medicine when there is some disease, but that does not mean there will be no disease. Can they guarantee that “I give you this medicine—no more disease.” We are giving that medicine, that no more disease. That is the best social work. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. We are giving this medicine, that after leaving this body…. So far this body is concerned, somehow or other you pass on. And as soon as you give up this body—tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]—you’ll have no more birth. And if you have no more birth, there will be no more death. And if you have no more birth, then there will be no more disease. This is our prescription. Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti [Bg. 4.9]. Not that he is finished. He goes back to home, back to Godhead. This is our program. So your question is answered or not? Huh? Your question is answered or not? Your question is answered or not?
Indian man: Not fully.
Acyutānanda: Do you understand?
Indian man: Yes, I understand.
Prabhupāda: Why it is not fully?
Indian man: It is, after all, question put by a layman.
Prabhupāda: Why you should “layman”? Why should not “wise man”? Why you should insist to remain a layman? Why you are persisting to remain a layman? Why?
Indian man: Because they want…
Prabhupāda: “They” not. What I am talking with you. They are all foolish. We call them mūḍhas, duṣkṛtino mūḍhas. So their demand is not legitimate. If a mūḍha… If your small child says, “Father, give me a bidi, cigarette,” would you give him? Because he is mūḍha. So the father is intelligent—”No.” So similarly, the mūḍhas may demand that “Open this hospital.” But we are not going to do that. We know…. Of course, hospital required so far the body is concerned, but there are so many hospitals. The real hospital which is not existing, we are starting. That is our mission, which is not possible for the so-called leaders and politicians. Try to clear this.
Yaśodānandana: Once you mentioned the story that when you were young you saw a mother running across the street in Calcutta beating her child because his brother had typhoid fever and he fed him the paratha.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Acyutānanda: Even socially, though, without religious, scientific, practical God consciousness, how can there be a civilization? How can anyone know that there’s a difference between right and wrong or morality unless there is God consciousness, to know that someone is watching everything I do? If you avoid that…. Just like we say, they want Rāma-rājya without Rāma. But they want the rājya.
Prabhupāda: Now, the laws and legislative assembly there are, and there is punishment, there is court—everything there is. That we were discussing last night, that where is the honest men? Why? In spite of laws, legislative assembly, court and everything, the wholesale rogues and dishonest. Then what is the use of this? What is your answer? Why you are checked on the airport just like a culprit, criminal? They cannot trust even a gentleman, although he is educated, may be holding very good office, but still, he is not to be trusted. So this is the result of your so-called function, that there is no honest man throughout the whole world. Then, what is the use of such education? And what is the use of their living? Let them die. No hospital for them.
–Morning walk, Jan 6, 1976, Nellore