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The Sunīti Purport – Prabhupada Meant “Woman,” Not “Mother,” as the Reason

Prabhupada Meant “Woman,” Not “Mother,” as the Reason – A Shastric Analysis

According to śāstric injunctions, there is no difference between śikṣā-guru and dīkṣā-guru, and generally the śikṣā-guru later on becomes the dīkṣā-guru. Sunīti, however, being a woman, and specifically his mother, could not become Dhruva Mahārāja’s dīkṣā-guru. ( SB 4.12.32, Purport )

In this podcast, Kr̥ṣṇa-kīrti dāsa and Śrīdhara Śrīnivāsa dāsa discuss Hr̥dayānanda Mahārāja’s conjecture that Prabhupāda in his purport to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 4.12.32 meant that Sunīti could not become Dhruva Mahārāja’s dīkṣā-guru because she was his mother, not because she was a woman. However, it is revealed in the discussion that śāstra and sadācāra indicate that spiritual masters can indeed initiate their own children. The discussion concludes with an evaluation of the strength of the authority of Hr̥idayānanda Mahārāja’s interpretation as comared with the strength of the pramāṇas from śāstra and sadācāra.

  • The “Specifically” Debate: Hridayananda Maharaja argues that Prabhupada’s use of “specifically his mother” means only the mother-child relationship disqualifies Suniti, not her womanhood. IISB scholars challenge this interpretation.

  • Parents Can Initiate Children: Bharadvaja Samhita (Narada Pancharatra) explicitly states that gurus can initiate their own children (putradin), fathers regularly give upanayana samskara to sons. The “mother can’t be objective” argument doesn’t hold scripturally.

  • Ramanuja’s Simhasanapatis: The Sri Sampradaya established 74 simhasanapatis (seat-holders) who passed initiation through family lineage, father to son, demonstrating that parental initiation is standard Vaishnava practice.

  • Word Jugglers vs. Shastra Study: Rather than engaging in textual wrangling to explain apparent contradictions, consulting Pancharatrika scriptures provides clear resolution without impugning Prabhupada’s memory or consistency.


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